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    Exclamation NEW MEMBERS!!: Read this after purchasing your first Group Buy.

    Hello Newbie Member,

    I welcome you to Group Insiders. I am not a moderator, just a member of this community that has helped me a great deal.

    In that interest, I thought it would be helpful to orient you a little bit, because it seems like you all have the same questions, particularly after you've sent your money through the ether to some bloke you don't know for a course you're chomping at the bit to get your hands on.

    BEFORE YOU POST asking "Please update us", "When do we get our GB download links" or worse some obnoxious or rude comment that is going to piss off our hard-working VOLUNTEERS, please read this carefully:

    Once a GB CLOSES:


    • The moderators must find a buyer
      This is the person who will buy the product on everyone's behalf. This process takes anywhere from 4 days to as many as two weeks in some cases. This buyer is a VOLUNTEER. They don't get any incentives to do this work for us other than the natural benefits that come from being the one who purchases the product (i.e. interfacing with the vendor and any other perks that cannot be shared). SPECIAL CARE needs to be taken to protect the identify of the buyer, which sometimes delays the process further.
    • The buyer makes the purchase using their own funds
      This process takes a nominal amount of time. It all adds up.
    • The process of downloading the gigabytes of data commences
      Depending on where the buyer is, this could take some time. Not all vendors organize their crap well. Some drip-feed their content, too. The buyer must do this while dealing with their own everyday lives.
    • Printed material? (double or triple that above estimate)
      If it's not digital and the buyer actually has to scan this stuff, this is what the poor bugger is doing for you after their everyday workday. Be extra-patient.
    • Whatever is secured is examined and uploaded onto iSaveLink
      GI mods must protect the buyer from risk, so they have to perform some checks. This takes time, too.
    • People are contacted.
      At that point, you will get a notification, sometimes by PM (private message), but always in the forum reserved for the buyers of the GB. You should have access to this forum. Go ahead and check now. If you do, then monitor that place for updates.



    As you can see this takes quite a bit of time.

    How long?
    From beginning to end, it can be anywhere from two weeks to as much as a month before you hear or get anything.

    >> IT IS NOT UNUSUAL if you don't hear anything from GI about a GB for a few weeks. IT IS NOT A CAUSE FOR ALARM. <<

    Just want an estimate?
    There are a ton of variables that make it impossible to even provide estimates.

    I know what you are going through. When I joined FUB/GI I bought 5 GBs in quick succession and a month later I had yet to see one byte of data. It was very unnerving. But the mods kept on reiterating that this is normal and I shouldn't be worried. And you know what? They were right. I've received every GB I've paid for, and in the instances where things have gone awry it was not because of GI but because of external factors beyond GI's control.


    If you have paid and you are whitelisted (meaning you are able to access the GB private forum thread, a privilege that only the GB buyers have), you are fine. NO NEED TO CONTACT ANYONE. No need to PM a mod to check.
    Just Keep an Eye on your "My GBs" tab in the home page to see if there is any updates about your GBs in case you haven't been messaged by the Staff. Here where you can find it:
    http://i.imgur.com/hce7VdM.jpg

    Bottom Line:

    Please, please, please, resist the urge if you are a new member to get annoyed, demand an update or make a comment that isn't polite.
    You are MORE THAN welcome to post a polite note asking for an update.
    But here is a tip: If you are a new member and in the GBs with older members and they are not worried, YOU SHOULDN'T BE EITHER. Sit tight. It will come. NO ONE IS RUNNING OFF WITH YOUR MONEY.

    Hope this helps.

    Kriton
    Last edited by Patriøt; 05-13-2015 at 11:06 AM.
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    Very useful post Kriton. Thanks

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    Great layout and presented content Kriton - many thanks for keeping our members informed

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    Great post, Kriton! Thank you. May be one of you can answer another question for me:
    my log in info/user name is different from the one I have on a paypal account. Is it going to be a problem? Or as long as I have access to the paypal account email I should get everything? From my understanding, after the payment is processed and GB is closed, there should be a private message notifying everyone that links are available for download. Is that correct? So, if this is the case, then I don't even have to get anything via email.. I am new here and would appreciate help from those who have been on GI for some time already!

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    xusha,
    It makes no difference that your username is different that the one with your Paypal account. Mine is also different.
    Once the GB is closed and all the material of the GB is ready for download, you will receive a PM notifying you of that fact, together with a link to the private thread for your GB.
    Only those paid participants of the GB will be able to access the thread.
    In the private thread you will find the links to download the material and members of the GB can also use their private thread to discuss the material if they wish.

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    Thank you, ams_guy!

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    Maybe a clarification about the "whitelisting" would also help...

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    Perfect -- just the sort of feedback I am looking for.
    I just added a clarification:

    If you have paid and you are whitelisted (meaning you are able to access the GB private forum thread, a privilege that only the GB buyers have), you are fine. NO NEED TO CONTACT ANYONE. No need to PM a mod to check.

    How is that?
    Kriton

    Quote Originally Posted by azeaze View Post
    Maybe a clarification about the "whitelisting" would also help...
    Last edited by Kriton; 12-05-2013 at 10:04 PM.
    (yeah, I'm back... long story)

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    Thank you Kristen-Very Helpful Thread Will also check out Market Launch 2.0 and Speed to Profits

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    Is there anyway to let people know when the buyer has actually brought the product?

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    It would not be advantageous to do so, for reasons I have explored here:
    http://groupinsiders.com/showthread....ll=1#post15875


    Quote Originally Posted by phenom27 View Post
    Is there anyway to let people know when the buyer has actually brought the product?
    (yeah, I'm back... long story)

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    Just another point to add.


    Please make sure that you use a 'primary email address'. Because you then automatically go on to a subscribed list when you reserve a seat for a GB.

    This way, you are covering yourself just in case you don't get a notification via a PM. By having the primary address, you are also keeping up with your prescribed threads movement of the GB.

    __________________________________________________ ___________________________________________

    Also, another way to gauge the movement of a GB and how quickly it will be available is to consider this...

    The bigger and more expensive a Product or program is, means that there will be quite a bit of transferring, downloading, compressing amongst other things to get the product to the members. This means that a big GB will take longer, so you should allow anywhere from one week to a month and hopefully not much longer. There is a lot of things for the buyer to do, to bring it successfully back to the members. So, please keep that in mind.
    Of course, if a product is smaller, then less time and everyone gets it quicker.

    These are important elements to consider in regards to how long things take. We have had members in the past, so impatient, that they start abusing others and become demanding. They are soon shown the door.

    Then as is the right way to think on it and put things into perspective. If you are that eager to get the product and can't wait or are so impatient, then no-one is ever stopping you from paying absolute full price for it.

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    Hi vancomycin & mods,

    Thanks for making this a sticky.

    With the ultimate goal of providing some good support information for our member.... I wonder:


    1. How should we organize this info? I see that there are members who have valuable comments to add to this thread. Should I update my thread on an ongoing basis? Should we in general contribute to the discussion in the thread of the information post?
    2. I was thinking about writing/contributing to a GI General FAQ based on the excellent start of of vancomycin and Patriot and the latter's request for help in fleshing them out in another main forum thread.


    To that end, it seems like if we have the following information posts

    Group Insiders General FAQ
    and
    NEW MEMBERS -- Read this after purchasing your first GB
    and
    How to start a GB - The Guide.

    These would serve (a) to consolidate the information that is floating around and (b) be easily findable.

    These would be a good start. Other suggestions, particularly from new members would be welcome.


    I can continue to maintain the second, my original thread.
    I'd be willing to contribute to writing the first.. I could start by consolidating the existing info Pat and Van have written into a new thread titled "Group Insiders General FAQ". Van, would you mind if I split up the information into more digestible chunks for consumption?
    Alas, I don't (yet) know enough to write intelligently for the third post.


    One caveat -- My time is a little tight until the new year, I'll do my best.

    Kriton.
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    Good suggestions there and I believe it will help a lot of new members and even existing members.

    Could I also suggest this course of action, as that way it will keep things a lot tighter and it won't become as confusing.

    As this could happen with trying to organize posts on these threads and they end up all over the forum.



    If we could have the following information posts as STICKY THREADS...



    1.NEW MEMBERS -- Read this after purchasing your first GB

    2. Group Insiders FAQ -- General FAQ

    3.How to start a GB -- The Guide



    Keep Continuing to have and use this thread, but could it could be renamed in the header.

    Maybe call this thread something like.......
    "Write Thoughts & Ideas Here to make GI The Best".



    The reason behind this is that this thread will continue to stay active, with members continually adding any helpful advice, under the new thread name.

    Then it just becomes a matter of a designated person to sort out the posts, then cut and paste from this thread into those separate 3 "STICKY THREADS".


    This will certainly help new members and also save answering new members questions individually.

    That way, selected members can have the links in their 'Signature Line' and just refer the members question in individual posts to the link in their post.




    Anyway, this is just my 2cents worth of adding greater value to the Forum,
    ~am.

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    Group Insiders GB RULES


    Group Insiders Special Announcement - Please Read Carefully

    Effective Immediately :

    With the utmost respect to our fellow members who come together to help make our GB(s) a success :

    Onsite & Offsite sharing, trading, reselling, and/or rehosting of FUB-GI GB Material to non-GB participants, negatively affects all of our members and paid content providers, and will irreversibly result in : a non-refundable cancellation of all current and previously paid GBs, Donor Memberships, & MMGs (as applicable) and a permanent revocation of your registered FUB-GI membership account(s) - no exceptions.

    We are continually working on revised GB rules and behind-the-scenes security updates to protect the integrity of our GB community members, its purchased contents, and most importantly to our volunteer rippers, who take all of the added time, effort and risks to deliver these materials to everyone. As always, we want to thank all of our members who step-up on their protective role to the next level by alerting FUB-GI Staff with their watchful eyes and aid. Your continued understanding and support into preserving our community is greatly appreciated.

    Regards, FUB-GI Staff.



    Information

    GB Rules:

    Anyone can start a GB - follow previous posts in this thread to understand the process : http://groupinsiders.com/showthread....uide-Templates

    Only admin create the Official Thread for the GB. This is decided in conjunction with the GB participators, and is determined by the number on the interested list, and whether admin feel costs can be covered.

    Admin will organize a buyer (and it isn't necessarily the GB originator, these are separate functions. The buyers identity is never revealed).

    No one can supply a product themselves, as previously mentioned, admin organize purchase.

    Everyone pays the same amount for their seat on the GB.

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    How long after the payment does it take on average to be whitelisted and receive a Private Message with a link to a subforum?

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    Just a question:
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    Yes. In theory those members who expressed interest get PMed first, although it doesn't always work this way.

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